Dec 08

收到回信了...

Hello,

Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Mail.

We appreciate your report as your input helps us to identify ways to
constantly maintain and improve our service. We apologize for any
inconvenience this has caused you. If you notice any further
difficulties when delivering to Yahoo! Mail accounts, after waiting a
reasonable amount of time, please let us know by replying directly to
this email. However please note the following:

If you are receiving the error code "421 Message from x.x.x.x
temporarily deferred" or "451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50" in
your SMTP logs, this indicates that the message you attempted to send
was not accepted by Yahoo! Mail servers. It is not a permanent error;
your system will automatically re-try later. If, after attempting to
deliver to Yahoo! and receive the 4.16.50 error repeatedly and conform
to the best sending practices outlined in the following page, we
encourage you to apply for prioritized sending at the link below.

Recommended Best Practices:

http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-01.html

Prioritized Delivery (Please note that this form can also be used by
senders whose mailings are being directed to the Bulk Folder):

http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/postmaster/bulk.html

If you are receiving a separate error than that above, please provide
the text of any error messages you may have received. Also, providing
the specific IP address of the mail server that experienced the delivery
issue will help us to troubleshoot the issue more efficiently.

For assistance with delivery issues to Yahoo! Mail, please visit:

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We appreciate your patience while we work to improve and maintain our
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Regards,

Samuel Cyprian

Yahoo! Customer Care

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Original Message Follows:
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Mail-Id: w1.help.tpc.yahoo.com-/l/us/yahoo/mail/postmaster/defer.html-1196670703-23
"Name:" : Joe Horn
"Email Address:" : ##我的Gmail信箱##
"Domains" : ###.com.tw
"Subject:" : Email not accepted for policy reasons
"IP Addresses:" : ###.###.###.1
###.###.###.2
"Error Codes:" :
host mx2.mail.tw.yahoo.com[203.188.197.10] refused to
talk to me: 421 Message from (###.###.###.1) temporarily deferred -
4.16.50. Please refer to http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html

host mx2.mail.tw.yahoo.com[203.188.197.10] refused to talk to me: 421
Message from (###.###.###.2) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50.
"Contents:" :
"Additional Info:" : Our company provide web hosting service for EC site owner.
Recently, we receive complaint from our customer.
They said that their customer who using Yahoo! mailbox couldn't
receive product order notification, but Gmail is okay.

Could you please help us to solve this problem?
Thanks.

"Information Passed In":
------------------------
"from_url" : http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/original/abuse/abuse-60.html
------------------------

While Viewing: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/original/abuse/abuse-60.html

Form Name: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/postmaster/defer.html

Yahoo ID:

Other ID:

Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; zh-TW; rv:1.8.1.11)
Gecko/20071127 Firefox/2.0.0.11

REMOTE_ADDR: 59.113.162.14

REMOTE_HOST: 59.113.162.14

Date Originated: Monday December 3, 2007 - 00:31:43

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一看就知道,又是在打官腔... :x

我把 ###.###.###.1 跟 ###.###.###.2 這兩個 IP 丟到 DNSBL 測試網站測試過,通通都是正常的。
而且,這兩台機器的網域都有 SPF 設定。

Yahoo 不使用開放架構,自行建置黑名單,回報後又沒給理由,著實令人頭疼。

我的研判,原因可能是「spammer 使用偽造的 Yahoo 信箱位址當作 From,丟信到 mail server,mail server 查不到收件人,嘗試退信,就回彈到 Yahoo 去」,所以在 mail server 上面改了些設定。

###.###.###.1 跟 ###.###.###.2 這兩個 IP 分別使用 EximPostfixMTA

我對 Exim 不熟,所以只調整了 Postfix 的 rule ,在 main.cf 用了這些設定(大部分是原本就有的):

#
bounce_queue_lifetime = 1h
maximal_queue_lifetime = 3d
#
smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtpd_sasl_auth_clients = yes
broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes
smtpd_sasl_local_domain =
smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
#
smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
permit_sasl_authenticated,
permit_mynetworks,
permit_mx_backup,
check_recipient_access regexp:/usr/local/etc/postfix/access_regex,
reject_non_fqdn_recipient,
reject_unknown_recipient_domain,
reject_unauth_destination,
reject_unknown_reverse_client_hostname
#
smtpd_client_restrictions =
permit_sasl_authenticated,
permit_mynetworks,
check_client_access regexp:/usr/local/etc/postfix/access_regex,
reject_unknown_reverse_client_hostname,
reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net,
reject_rbl_client sbl.spamhaus.org,
reject_rbl_client list.dsbl.org,
reject_rbl_client cblless.anti-spam.org.cn,
permit
#
smtpd_sender_restrictions =
reject_non_fqdn_sender,
reject_unknown_sender_domain

在 /usr/local/etc/postfix/access_regex 這個檔案裡面則是塞了這些:

/dsl\./ REJECT
/\.dsl/ REJECT
/dynamic\./ REJECT
/\.dynamic/ REJECT
/-dynamic/ REJECT
/dynamic-/ REJECT
/\.dynamicIP\./ REJECT
/\.dyn/ REJECT
/dyn\./ REJECT
/dyn-/ REJECT
/-dyn/ REJECT
/dynpool/ REJECT

另外,建議有相同困擾的人,運用 Gmail 信箱當作 mail 溝通管道。
PHP 的系統可以考慮導入 libgmailer

有人跟我說,要人家放棄 Yahoo 的信箱很難,因為Y拍的店主都得用 Yahoo 的信箱。
可是... 露天+搜尋引擎關鍵字廣告不好用嗎? 而且,目前露天還不會向店長勒索!

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Dec 03

之前是處理 server 發信到 Hotmail 被吞掉的問題,最近是在處理 server 無法把信件丟到 Yahoo 信箱的問題。

server 的 mailog 有這兩種訊息:

  • host mx##.mail.tw.yahoo.com[###.###.###.###] refused to talk to me: 421 Message from (###.###.###.###) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. Please refer to http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html
  • host mx##.mail.tw.yahoo.com[###.###.###.###] refused to talk to me: 453 Mail from ###.###.###.### not allowed - [90]

前幾天循著訊息中的網址發訊息給 Yahoo,問題到現在依然無解。
Neo 也在約一週前貼出 這篇 Blog post

拜託,行行好。
為了讓自己能接到訂單通知函、註冊認證信,別再用 Yahoo 跟 Hotmail 的信箱進行帳號註冊與購物啦。
Gmail 不是很好嗎? 註冊一個 Gmail 上網註冊、購物用,省去你們的麻煩,也不會讓我們頭痛。
而且,Gmail 信箱裡面的垃圾信數量絕對比 Yahoo 跟 Hotmail 的還少啦。

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Jun 28

昨天看到 這篇 , 剛好之前我也有玩過 Yahoo 知識+ , 所以有些話想補一下.

因為我們有時要找問題的答案時, 幾乎都會靠搜尋引擎, 而 Yahoo 奇摩 剛好又是入口網站廠商, 於是他們便推出了 Yahoo 知識+ .

這個 idea 其實很棒, 但是這個系統卻被使用者玩爛了.
我們可以分成兩個方向來看使用者們把系統玩爛的問題.

首先是發問, 也就是問題方面.
Yahoo 知識+ 上面有許多主觀定義的問題, 例如 : 這些 , 這種問題具參考性嗎? 每個人的狀況不同, 看法也不同, 哪來的一定, 最佳解答? 更別說其他方面, 問題搞錯分類的, 問題問的非常籠統的, 大有人在!

再者, 在解答方面.
Yahoo 知識+ 上面充斥著許多複製/貼上的解答, 在許多解答的版權上就有其爭議性.
而解答的投票制沒有對投票權作有效的控管, 使得想入選的解答者可以發動人海戰術對他自己的解答進行灌票. 同樣的, 知識評價權也一樣沒有受到良好的管理與劃分.

在我看來, 目前 Yahoo 知識+ 的亂象實在是非常多, 但是這些亂象的起因都是使用者本身的問題.
不可否認的, 有些問題可以在上面找到答案. 至於要不要參與這個大遊戲, 就讓大家自行抉擇吧.

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Mar 28

首先先在

<head>....</head>

中加入這段:

<script type="text/javascript" src="http://yq.search.yahoo.com/javascript/yq.js">
</script>

再來把以下這段加進你想顯示的地方 ( 1.5 之前的版本我會建議加到 wp-comments.php , 1.5 的話則是 comments.php ) :

<form action="http://yq.search.yahoo.com/search" method="post">
<input type="hidden" name="context" value="<?php the_excerpt_rss(); ?/>" />
<input type="hidden" name="YSTResultsMax" value="5" />
<div class="yqact">
<input class="yqbt" type="submit" value="Possibly Related Stuff" onclick="return activateYQ(this)" />
</div>
</form>

進階使用可以參考 這裡 .

不知道啥時 Yahoo!Kimo 也能弄一個出來. XD

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